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Council Chamber 

WHITEHALL the i6th oijuly le-j^, 

Lord Arch-Bifliop oi Canterbury 

Lord Chancellor 

Lord Prefident 

Lord Privy Seal 

Marquefs of Worcefler 

Earl of Bridgwater 

Earl of Sunderland 

Earl of Effex 

VifcoLint t'auconlerg 

Vifcount Halifax 

Lord Roharts , 

Mr. Secretary Coventry 

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer i 

IT was this day Ordered by their JLord- 
Ihips in Council , That the Depofitions 
and Letter o^Kokrt Jeiiifon Efq^ with the At- 
teftations of Sir Michael Warton, George Booths 
Robert Bowes, William Burnet Efquires, and Ralph 
Marjhal Gentleman, together with the Nar r a- 
t'rvQ of Charles Chetwind Efq; ( relating to M/- 
liam Ireland lately executed ) Be Printed by 
fuch Perfons as Mr. Chetmnd lliall appoint, 
the lame having been examined and approved 
by My. Trek) late Chairman to the Secret Com- 
mittee of the Houfeof Commons. 

' Joh7t Nicholas. 

By virtue of this Order, I do appoint Henry Hills^ Thomas Parkhufi^ 
John Starkey, DorrAan Newman, Thomas Cockeril, Thomas Simmons, and 
Jacob Tonfon, to Print this Narrative, and that no other prefume to Print 

the fame. 

Charles Chetivind. 

July the i-jth 1679- 





O F 

Robert Jenifon Efq; 

With other Material Evidences, plainly proving 


Mr, WiUiam Ireland, 

Lately Executed for 


Was in London the Nineteenth of Anguft^ j6jS. Notwith- 
ftanding his Confident DENIAL thereof both at 

H I S 

Tryal and Execution. 

CoUeded by CH^RL£5 CHETWIND Efq,- 


Printed for, Henry Hills, Thomas Varkhurfl, John Star- 
key, Dorman Newma?i, Thomas Cockeril, Thomas Sim- 
mons, and Jaco^Tonfon, 1 6' 7^. 

i.030. 03{ 

The Publilhers 

p R E F A c 

;T is not unknown to all confidering and judicious Perfons 
in this Kingdom, that, upon the happy Difcovery oi tlie 
late horrid Popilli Plot againll his Alajefties Perfon and 
Government. andtheEflabiiiht ProteJLvit Ri'ligioi ; and 
upon the Apprehenfion, Arraignment, Trial, and Condem- 
nation of feveral of theConfpirators,many Artifices have 
been ufed by Perfons of the fame Pcrfuaf^on, to defimethe Witneflcs pro- 
duced for the King, and to invalidate their Teflimonies ; in order u lierc- 
unto, feveral Witnefles have been procured, firft at the Trial of Ireland^ 
and after at the Trial of White alias Whttehread^ ^c. i^ many of them 
Scholars belonging to the Engli/h Seminary at St. Omers, inflrucled no 
doubt, and fent over to aft viis & modis, for the prefervation ot" their 
Condufters and Leaders ^ to teftifie that Dr. Titus Odtes, one of the prin- 
cipal WitneHes for his Majefty, was at St. Omers, at the fame time when 
he upon his Oath affirms himfeif to have been in London ; other Witnefles 
have been alfo produced, to prove that Mr. Ireland ( lately Executed ) 
was in Staffordft^ire^ at thofe days and times when Dr. Oates^ Mr. Bedlot\ 
and one Sarah Pain^ atteft upon their Oaths, that they faw him in Lon- 
don^ as by the Printed Trials of Ireland^ and Whitehread^ \^c. does ap- 
pear fuch a failure in Circumftance of time and place, is of fo great con- 
fequence in this cafe that if made out, it would render the faid Perfons 
unworthy, the names of jull and lawful Witnefles ; and for that reafon 
their Adverfaries put fo much flrefs upon it, that , not contented with the 
determination of the matter, at the Trial and Condemnation of Ireland^ 
they again refume it at the Trial of Whitehread^ (sc and by their 
St. Omers Youths, endeavour to faften talfehood on Dr. 0^//^ x, and by con- 
fequence to impeach the credit of his Teftimony, and the juftice of their 
Condemnation. As to the firft particular concerning T)r. Oates^ his 
Teftimony is juftly fecured, and he himfeif indubitably proved to have 
been in London^ at the times by him mentioned and dcpoll-d, by the con- 
current evidence of divers creditable Perfons, given in upon Oath at the 
Trial of Whitelread ; fo that the Stratagem which his Antagonifts did 
ufe, to deftroy or at leaft depretiate his Teftimony, hath by a gracious 
emergency of Divine Providence, turned to a ftrong confirmation f;here- 
of, and for ever fet him, as to this point, Rethis in cuna, a good and law- 
ful Witnefs, in reference to dl the Evidence already given, and w hich 
hereafter may be given by him in any future Trials. Their defign failing 
herein, their next attempt was to entrap him and the reft, in relation to 
Mr. Ireland^ whom the WitnelTes they produce, afJirm to have been in^^ 
Stafford Ihi/e^ and other places out of London^ all the Month of Augujl^ 
from the fifth of Auguft^ to the fourteenth of September ; whereas Dr. 
Oates, Mr. Bedloe^ and Sarah Pain, depofe, that they faw him in London 
within that time. To clear the Truth of this Particular, and to juilifis 
the Evidence of Dr. Oates, and the reft, theTeUimonv of Mr. 'je.jifo-rt 

B 1% 

is a pregnant demonflrLition, which I thought truly to dcfcrvc my lit- 
mort drUigcnce to bring to light ; and in order thereunto, communicated 
tlie fame to the llight Honourable the F.arl of Sl.Kiftsl'tiry, and b)- his 
appointment to Julbce iWtrcup; before whom Mr. 'jeuifons D^'pofitions, 
and the Atteftations of the worthy Gentleme>t hereafter mentioned, were 
taken; and in whofe hands, if nottranfmittedby himtothcClerkof his 
Maieftics G^uncil, she Originals of the enfuing Papers are robe feen, and 
w hofe joint endeavours for the Difcoverv of the Truth in this, as well 
as other particulars relating to the Plot, deferve an honourable mention. 

The occafion of what is here publiihtarifing from fevcralpafTrges in 
the Trials of IreLvid^ and Whhchread, Cyc. thole pallages are here fx- 
tr,iiltul and prefented to the Readers view; that having the cafe before 
him, he may apply this evidence thereto ; u hereby his judgment will 

be clear. i 

The Reader will find this Ihort difcourfe divided into three parts. 

The Firlt relates the means and manner of obtaining the Letter and Dc- 
pofitionsof that worthy Perfon, Mr. Jenijbn.^ 

The Second exhibits the Letter and Depojltions. 

The Third, fome ohjervations thereupon, tor the full fatisfadliort of all 
unbiafs'd minds in the matter Controverted. 



_'.f^i Poii tlie \^th. of ^iim in this prefent year 1679. Charles 
^^H^'^Sl^i^' (^■^^'^^■'"''"'^ "^' IFefiminj'hr Efc], had occallonally fome difcourfc 
r^^^i^^'!^^^^ wi:h a Gentleman till then unknown to him 5 to wit, Mr. Grif- 
" ' iHliSif /'^ °''' ^''-y^^'^^'h Barrifter at I„aw, concerning the ft'/e Trai- 

U ilrs&'^y '^'-"'^ '^^"'- '^■"^ been condemned the Sa'tirday before, and their 
^z^'^)'^^^ attempt to prove Mr. IVilliam Ireland, alias Iroimr-no^er, late- 
,l|5^^^^^ ly executed tor High-Trea(bn to have been in Stajfordjhire, and 
on his Journey thither fi-om the ^sb- of yi'//g///? 1678 till the 
■jth. ot September following, and not to have been within that 
time in London, which as* Mr. Oares and others, Isad upon 
his Tryal affirmed him to be there, about the irth. ot that Month, and to be return- 
ed thither again about the beginning oi Sep ember: whereupon the iiid Mr. Griffith, 
rold Mr. Chetvind , that Sir Michael l^arron of Beverly in the County of Tork 
Knight, a Worthy Membtr ot the Honourable Houlc of Commons in the laft Par- 
liament told him, thit imce the execution of Ireland, Mr. ycnifcn ( a Gentleman of 
very good Qiiality, and a Student in Grays-Itm, who was a Romariiji till about j«- 
vtiary luft ) affirmed, that Mr. Ireland was in London about the middle of Augtt[l-, 
and that he was with him then at a Scriveners at the Sign ot the IVh'ue-kart in Rujj'tl- 
Street in Covent Garden, which relation he confirm'd with (everal other notable cir- 
cunaftances. Mr. Chetwind, having heard this, went to U'lntehall, and there attend- 
ing on the Right Honourable the Earl of Shaftsbury, L-ord Prcfident of his Majefties 
Privy Council, acquainted his Lordlhip with what Mr. Griffith had told him; upon 
which, the iiiid Earl of Sbaftsbitry rold Mr. Cbetvj'md , that it would be very con- 
fiderable, if it could be made out. Mr. C^efrt^'/Wthusencouragedby thefaidE^r/, did 
by his order, make it his bufinefs the next morning, being Tu^fday "june the 1 6th. to 
find out Sir Michael iViirton, and coming to the Cofl-ee HouleinO't'ewf G.vrJc», where 
Sir A/zc/j,^!?/ ufed to be when in Town, Mr. Cte5ww</ met there with Mr. Ralph Afar- 
jhal Secretary to the Earl of Craven, who upon difcourte told Mr Chetwind that Sr 
' A-//<."(6rtt'/ lived at f/^w^Mi^ this Summer. Mr. Marjhal, underllanding fbmethingof 
the buGnefs for which NIr. Chettwind enquired after Sir Michael, faid, that Sir Micha- 
el had often related to him, and he was (iire he would juftifie it, that the faid Mr. 
Jenifon ot Grays-Irm ( who was lately come over to the Protellant Religion, a perlbn 
ofconfiderable quality, and Heir to a good Eftate, his elder Brother being a prieit, and 
in Newgate) rold him, the faid Sir Michael, in the pretence of feveral other Gentlemen 
of Quality prefcntly after the execution ot/r?/^«^the feverall following particulars which 
they had hitherto taken no care to difcover, becaufe they expected not that the evidence 
given in the Trull againft him the faid Ireland, would after his execution come into 
quelKon or debate. 

The Particulars were thefe. 

That in the month of Augufi 1678. when His Majefiy was at JVtndfir, Mr. Je- 
nifon going to Windfor on Saturday the i jth oi Augufi and returning the i <^th, immediately 
upon his return that night, he went to give Mr. Ireland (the fame perlbn v/ho was af- 
terwards executed ) a vilit, and found him at the Sign ot the Hart in Ruj]cl-Street in 
Covent Garden, and atter a Salute, Mr. /?-t'/<j«i/ asked him feveral Quefiions, as. What 
newes from Windfor? how his Majefiy fpenth^ time? and v^hat recreations he followed? 
and whither he walked abroad much, and how guarded? to which Mr. "/c »;/ow anfwered 
that his Majefiie delighted much in Hawking and Fifliing, but moil in the latter, which 
his Majefiy followed early in the morning with fbme few perfbns attending him j upon 
which Mr. Ireland replyed, / iDonder his M^.jefiy is no better guarded, he were eafdy 
taken offi, whereupon Mr. 7ewi/ow faid God forbid, or words to that eftedt, which made 
Mr. Ireland flop his difcourfe. Mr. Marjhal reporting this to Mr. Chetwind in pre- 
ftnce of Mr. Afi) and Mr. Spicer, two perfons of unqueftionable reputation ; Mr. Ajh 
replied, that he waslaft night in company with Mr. Griffith, and Mr- Booth, Son 

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to my Loi-J D:' Li Moi\; where he hcai\l them dilannlc ot iliis very Bulincls • Mr. 
Booth laying that he heard Mr. JemjoM Ipeak the lame things, whereupon Mr. ALirjIull 
undertook to go that very Day to ILimfjhiul x.oS\y MicLhicl H'.irtov, and give Mr. chet- 
■u-tn.l .\\\ account of it tlie next Morning, ^h•. ^J/^and Mv.Spfccr aUo, before Mr. Chcr- 
3i'/W and they parted, having promilcd to go to Mr. i{oo//>, met liim, who julHficd e- 
very lylLibleoF what he had laid, and withall, remembrcd very well that when Sir A/.- 
chael ICirton took lome particular Notice ot it, Mr. yfw//ow teemed to be furpriled, and 
was lorry he had uttered thole U'ords, and began to rec:dl them, as to the time only of 
Ir<land\ being m Town : But (."lysiNh". Roves, ( who was there prelint, a Perfon of 
Quality of G")wyt'/-/w«, and well elteeiiKd in your Houle) "jinijoii yuu cannot retrad 
your Words, tor 1 have a Letter under your own Hand which will put you in mind of 
the Time, and repeats the very liirne thing. 

The Fryday following being the 1.0th. ot ~fune, Mr. Booth and Mr. Bcves met with 
Mr. ycvijon, and dilcourled the matter with him, who then owned all the Qiiellions 
which Ireland asked him, namely, It'hat Nivs at iriiidjur? hov h;s Majtfiy (pent his 
time? fee. But, Liyshe, I delire a days time to conlider, that 1 may be exatf as tothe 
Day when they were Ipoken ; torleveral Perlbns have told me of a great many out of 
Stafforiljhtre, who upon the Tryal ot the 5 Traitors, //• hitchread, &c. had proved Air. 
Irehwdio be in Staff'ordjhire {\om tlx; ^th ot uingtiji to the jth of SeptLfuhcr :^ and 
therefore I mull (erioufly conlider what time it was that 1 (aw him in London j upon 
which they appointed to dine together on Saturday following, being the 2 1 of June. 
W'hich Day being come, there met Sir. Adtchacl Iftirton., lAv. 'fenijotj, Mr. Bowes, Mr. 
Booth, Mv. Griffith, and Nlr. Alarjha!/, and there they fhewed Mr. Jaiifcn his Letter, 
which he acknowledged to be writ by his own Hand ■ and luriher told them, that upon 
the i^f/j of /a'/;^«/f hecameto Lowiijwtrom Tnnbridge, that upon the ijth he went to 
JVtndJor, and upon the 19//; he returned to London again, and either that Night or 
the next Day, he hadthis Di(courfc\vithMr. Jrf/.'?;-;^/ at the Sign of the //^?v in Rujjcl- 
Jirect'm Covent Garden ; harthn" he related that on the^.r/j ot Sept ember 'ioWow'ms^ he 
went from London into the North, returning back to London in the enfiiing Novcn/ber, 
and To prcfently after removed to Readm^^, Irom whence hf writ the torementioned 
Letter of Mx.Ro-n-es. ThisConfellionof l!isMr.i^!/a-?j/j.;/tookin Writing at that very 
Time ( when they dined together ) all ot them being prelent, as alio a true Copy of 
his Letter writ from Rtading,hol\\ which he brought to Mr. Chetwind thefiime Night ; 
jmmrdlatcly upon which Mr. Chetn'tnd and he carried them to my Lord ot Shaftshurj, 
his Loidlhip the next Day ( beingthe zijl of June) communicating tliemto my Lord 
C/i<7MCf //or and (evcral others of his Majeftics Privy Council. The tallowing Day (viz. 
"June -LT^d.) Mr. Chetwind brought Mr. Bowes and Mr. Miirji)all with the Original 
Letter to the Earl of Shaft sburj, before whom K\r.Jenijon acknowledged the Letter to 
be his own, with the circumftawces thereunto referring concerniaig Time and Place. 

Tlulc things will receive a liifficicnt Contirmation if we do but ferioufly perule all 
the cnfuinglntormations taken betore oucot his Majcllies Juftices ot the Peace tor the 
County of Aftddlefex ; as you will fee by his Subicription at the Clofc, as alfo the Sub- 
loriptions of thofe that gave the Informations. 

The Information of Sir Michael Warton Knight. 

About the month of Fehruary lafl: Mt. Bowes and Mr. Burnet of Graj/es-hnnndmy 
felt, went to diuc together at the Mirmuid at Grayes-Inn Gate in Holhorn, whither Mr. 
Jenijon, an Acquaintance of Mr Bowes, accidentally came into the Room, ib that w« 
dined together ; and upon general Dil(:ourfesatDinncr,we were talking of Mr. Irelands 
Tryal or Execution, whereupon Mr. Bowes begun the dlfcourfc of a Letter he had from 
Mr. Jenifon which (bethought) if he had received timely eiwugh might have very 
much cleared the Point of Irelands being in London in Augufi laft ; Mr. Jenijon owned 
the Letter, and continued the Dilcourfe j (bmetime after! law the Letter, and by the 
reading judged it might havs been very Material, the matter of the Letter being perfedl- 
ly owned by Mr. Jenifon. 

June iGth jCj^. M. Warton. 

The Atteflation of George Bootll Efq; 

1 4I0 atteft this Matter that Sir Mkhad Ifarton has here attefted. George Booth. 


c n 

The Information of Mr. Burnet. 

\Miat Sir Michael Warton has here Hud, ] know to be true ; the Day that Mr. Jenifm 
^cnt to IVindfor, I do believe to be the i yth of Aitgujt lail, it was on a Saturday," 
the day of Dochcts Hor(e-race, for I met him riding to JFmdfcr as I came from the 
Horle-race. U^- Bur net. 

The Informathfj of Robiert BoV/es Efq', 

About thclattercnd oi' Deeember laft I received a Letter froin Mr. Rol'ert Jenifon, 
which a httic time after I fhewed to Mr. Sav.ll.iviA Mr. Ezrers of Li?tcohis-In7}, and have 
now by me : Mr. Jeiufcn hath owned ic all along, and doth (o ftill. I have ievcral 
times hnce dilcoiirfl: with him upao it ; I went to //^i?;^/^or on the ixth om i-^th of ^u^ 
^«/ laft, ^nd Ibid a Night there, and fi-om thence to //:w^, where libid untill the6r/S 
of September following or thereabouts. 

JuTJs x6Lh 1679. Roh. Bo-u'es. 

The Information of Ralph Marfiial Gent, is., 

That in or about the Month of Fehrua-ry laft, being in difcourle with Sir Michael 
Warton, concerning Mr. IreZ/JK.-/^ being about that time Executed , and concerning his 
denyinghis being in Lc;ulcn in Jugufi hfi. Sir jVIich tie! told this Informant, That if Mr. 
Ireland were to be Tryed again, it would be proved that he Wis m Town in Auo-tijl, by 
Mr. Jentfon, a Gentleman of Quality ot Grays-Inn:, Sir Adicbael then tellinc him alfb 
whet dilcourle Mr. ja;/,/c«, and Mr. 7; ^' /:?«// had at that time together, which difcourfe 
is particularly mentioned in a Letter, in the hand of Mr. Bou'es of Grajs-Inn , which Let- 
ter I have read, and lieard Mr. Jtnifon own to be his own hand \Vritmg. And this 
Informant further (iirh. That he hath often heard Mr. Jtnifoniay , that he believeth 
the time hehadths di!cour(e with Mr. Ireland, mentioned in his (aid Letter, was the 
iqtb of Augiifihil, in the Afternoon, he being come that morning from Mind for and 
that it was at one Mr. Cojtioes h.o^ie, at the lHoite-Hart in RaJJel-Areet. 

Ralph MarJIial. 

Thefe Informations above writte;n, were all Written and Subfcribed by the Parties a- 
bove named, on the z6tb of June 1679. Before us, 

Edmcnd fVarcupp. 
CharUi Chetivmd. 


Not to put you off with the Information! of Others , concerning Mr. Jenifins Let- 

■ and VVords, we fliall in the next Place give you the tru£ Copy of the Letter and 

alio of Two differing Inforwationsoi his, both of them full as much, if not ipore home 
to the purpole than what had been reported by others. 

Mr. Jenifons Letter from Reading in Barkfmre, upon his return from the 
North. To Robert Bowes, Efq; Son to Sir Francis Bowes. ( Mr. Je- 
nifott then being a Papift. } 

i?f(7^/wf December 1 9. 1678. 

YOHrsI have, bearing Date the n^thinfiant, and havf not miJJ'ed a Tofi I could fend, 
to you; I am not ignorant of the offer made by His Majefties Troclamation, and 
lay hold en nothing but Tar don for concealing that Circumfiance I have knoun fo long ; 
yet I did not altogether conceal it -neither: for I told my Cozin Smith of it -within Two 
or Tlnee days of the breaking out of this damnable Confpiracy, ■which how much it weighs 
lam not a fit Judg of; and I would not , were it to gam a Million, Nay, a Million of 
Worlds, if fojfibk, draw the leaf drop of innocent Blood upon me; for I know it is a 
crying fin, thei-efre I pray God avert it from me. AH that lean tell you, as I hope for 
forgivnefs of my Sins and Eternal Salvation, m, ( if you will difiinguijh between the times ) 
what foBows. 



BeiKg co7Hifiofa WiiuKor, n^lhn I piOfnifid my felf the bdppift:fs and [aUsfacilon of 
. :"J rou, that I Might Sake my leave before iny joir.ncy fur she Norili, ( which to the 
' rf<y Memory v.\u aiw.'trthe latter en J of Align iV, ) / vent to tlo thejtime to Mr. 
Iriiaad, v>hpw thev, ( w:rhall tberej'}^,) I Jid believe to be a man of the bcjt ConixrJ^- 
' ion evd Life mtae worl.'l,{for you know the Law does prcfume every 7/t.m z^oodamtil tt 
bef,-jved otberwife. ) y}fser my falute, end I had told him I had been at \Vimlfbr, h;s 
hiterr:ratiry^ or Xltteftionwr.s, what News? My tetum was the tifiial no News, biic 
good i tjen be proceeds to ask me lo the k-Jl of my memory, how his Sacred Majelty and 
the Court were diverted? 1 replied , that I heard , i6/rM.i jelly tfok much delight in 
Havking :^:'dFilhing, but chiejlj in the latter, -which his ^ia)elty followed early tn- the 
mortung, ,is I beard, accord, panied only with Two or Three Lurds , or other Attendants : I 
wonder, fnd ^il•. Ireland, why his Xlijelly fliould be (b thin Guarded , he were eiifily 
taken oft or removed, or fome v^-ords tothat purpoft, fo fiu/idiug ; God forbid, Jreturmd-y 
^o, jubjoyns he, I do not (ay it is L.x\\'i\x\, and fomethmg elfe I cannot call to mind that 
did o^ttahfe the former words, that I did then think hts meaning was, he was then firry 
bx Sacred M.i)d\y jhould ^o fo weakly guarded; I then took it by that handle, havinr 
no other Reafon ; for I did believe him a Saint, never hearing him, ?wr any of them, as I 
hope for everlajting life. Defend or Maintain tn the leaf. That damnable Doctrine of 
depoling Kings j But now I know that paJJ'age may be taken by the other handle; and 
1 amnot fit t» ]ndg how far, yet yon know words arc to be taken in the milder fcnfi iin/efs 
ihey be pofitive , which thefie, with their qualifications as they werefpoken, are net. J fiip- 
pofe there IS clearer Evidence from Mr. Ojres, that betttr knew It than I. There is only 
another thing ( and I have cleared my Soul,") has run m my faiicy ever fince tLts,ever to 
be detejhed Immergency happened, which applyed to thefe times has an ill joitnd with it ; 
you know whom I acciifenow, Tho. Je. but mother limes is capable of a good Confl,-tiili- 
on, viz. He had fime hiifinefs to acquaint mi v/itb, and this for two or three times at our 
f.nting; for I did not fee him above Four or five times, as I remember the while I was 
tn London. Once I iirg^d him to tell me the bufinefs, he replied, he would take fome c- 
tber occafion; now I did believe he meant Jomewhat about my fetlmg in the world as a 
Match, having propounded one to me of a Knights Daughter half a Tear beftre , or of 
that fort of bufinefs ^and "'tis capable o(- that Confiriiction fiill,^f there be no clearer Evi- 
dence to give a Lufier andagreat Light on the other fide. We have a good Author that 
commands tis to give unto Cxlar what />Cxfars, and to God, who is Truth it (elf, what 
belongs to him, which I would do to the dividing the minutefi Atom in the prejmce of 
that Truth which made me. But I can fiow remember no more if I were to gam Hea- 
ven, unlefs my Coz^in Smiih put me in mind of a word or two mere relating to one oftheje 
two pafiages, that now I don't remember, which I will own if IJaid it, otherwife not; for 
I will have nothing to do with their blood, further the?iwhat I can with a clear and fife 
Confcience fwear, which I am ready to do, if fent for , as far as I have declared; I am 
tn the mean while , Sir, 

Your aflurcd Friend, and Faithful Servant, 

This be pleafed to fliewto Qdloncl Tempefi, our Knight 
of the Shire, or whom you pkale to acquaint with it. 


I Hear fince I have writ this, that 4 of the Jefuits are Condemned, 
which if the included 2 be in, this might befpared, only for yourfa- 
tisfadtion I fend it ; and what I have faid m this Letter is all I can juftiy 
Swear except my Cozin Smith remember a word, or more about one of 
thefe pafTages, the former I mean; as for the latter, all what I have faid 
is by all that's SjcreJ^ ( and I iiope 'tis no offence tof.vear to the Truth) 
all, and fome, I fay, of what I knov\-, if it were the laft moment I have 
to live, I coLild confefs no more. 


The infortrj.ntion of Ilobert Jcnifon of Grays-Inn Efij ; Sai of John Jeni- 
fon, 0/ Walworth /« the County Pabtine 0} D^xKh^xm^EJlj; takenupon 
Oath this z(}th. ^.ly of June, 1679. before me Edmund^\arc\i^ Ejlj; one 
of hisM-vefHes Jujliccsof the Peace, in the County of MKldlelex, 

Alid. Jf. This Informant ftith, that he went from London to iebWivJjhr, and 
•to meet NIr. Robert Bonnes, at or about the i/ch. of ^'ifgufi \a\\ paft, and rt turned barit 
to London the 19th. day of the fame Month ; on which day in theafttrnoon, hcniadta 
vifit to Mr. IftHiam Ireland, ahas Jronm nger, at his Lodgings in Kujjei-Srreet, who 
was this Informants Relation; at which time and place, he (this Iniormant ) haa 
the dilcourfc with the (aid Mr. Ireland, ipentioned and contained in this InformantJ 
Letter to the (aid Mr. Bowjs, and now (hewed unto him, being all of this Informants 
own hand writing, dated at Reading m Barkjhire, on the igrh. dayof Decenshirhil 
pad. And this Informant doth very well remember, that he went tron\ London into 
the Noith, in the lork. Coach on the 4'h. day ot September lall pait , and came 
thence back to London, in October following ; and thence went to Reading \a obedience 
to his Alajefties Proclamation, from whence he wrote the Letter afo.elaid to Mr. Ro- 
bert Boires, and further at prefeuc (aith not. 

Jur. die & anno fupr. diet. Cor. Rob. ftnifn. 

me Edm. iVarcup. 

The further Information of Rob. Jenl'njn of Grays-Inn Efii; t.iken upon 
Oath this zd. day of July, 167c;. l?efore me Edmund Warcup £_/^; one 
of his M.ije (lies Tuflices of the Peace, in the County of lAi^X^Wc^cx. 

Mid. ff. This Informant faith , that he being returned from Windfcr upon 
the 19th. day of AugHft lad, v.-'-iil to Mr. H'tHu-m IreLnd's Lodging in i?«_^('/-5/>-£f? 
in Covent-Gnrdin, to vifit him ; and palling through the Entry , Went dircvflly two 
pair of Stairs to the (uid Mr. William IreL'.nd''i Ch.anber. the Door whereof being 
f«mewhat open, he cntred, and there found the f nd l(^ Ireland , whom thi^ 
Informant liaving told, that he came ]u-l then from iVtndfor upon a Hackney Hor(e, 
hired at 3 s. per diem, which had much tired him ; the laid U'lllsam Ireland replied, 
that he was then newly arrived from IVolverhamptun in Staff'onljhire by Poft, and waj 
not weary ; Upon which this Informant replied, that he thought Scholars, as he 
■was, had rather cheofe to ride ambling Horles, than to ride Poft. 

And this Informant furtltfr faith, that he very well remembers, that about the be* 
ginning of October laft paft, Sir Edward Smith came to K-alwort/j in the County of 
Durham, and then read a Letter newly come from London, purporting the difcovery 
of the Plot, and that the Kmg was to have been killed at M^mdjor ; which made this 
Informant call to mind the exprellions of the (aid IFilliam Ireland, on the (aid 1 9th. 
day of Auguft, va. Why his Majefly Jliould be fo thin guarded, he was cafily taken 
off' or removed, or words of that founding, d^c. And thereupon this Informant did the 
next day after the reading of the faid Letter , relate all the palTages between this In- 
formant and the (aid Mr. Ireland, to this Informants Father, and the laid Mr. Smith, 
as they are contained in this Informants Letter to Mr. Bo7i'es , dated on the i9tb. 
day ot December laft ; and (b the (iiid Mr. Smith hath lately by Letter fignifieti to 
the (aid Mr. Howes. And this Informant further faith, that in the year 1678. (everal 
Papifts have in this Informants hearing declared, that they doubted not, but their Re- 
ligion Would (hortly be uppermoft, or to that efieft ; And further at prefent he fiith nor 

Ohfervations deducihle from the aforefaid Letter and Teftimony , and 
from the manner of obtaining the fame; 

I ; It is a remarkable inftance of Divine providence, that this latent evidence cafus 
ally dilcovered to Mr. Chuwind (when he had not knov/n or heard of Mr. Jenifon') 
{hoiild be thus recovered by him ■ and that in his purfuit thereof, (o many worthy Per(bns 
likcwife unknoWQj fhould accidentally occur to him, and contribute their great alfiftance.- 

X. The 'forelaid Mr. Jenifon at the writing of his Letter to Mr. Bowes was of the 
Romifh Church, and in obedience to the Kings Procl.mation for Bdni(hing Papifts out 
of London, had retired from London to Readitig, Co that the Dilcovery made by his Let- 
ter cannot rationally be imputed to any other inducement, or incitement, (ave only the 
Power of Truth ; efpecially confidering that Mr. 7rt^/rf»^ was related to him. 

* 3. The 

^. The r.viin Plot is eviilently confirmcdj not only by tlio PapilV; cxpecling fbme 
i^.-f-ir Change and Alteration, nuntioucciin one ot Mr Jtnifns Intovmations, given in 
upon hii O.itli, but alio by thoit- kilpicious QuelKoivs prop jlcd by the laid Irelan.l to 
Mr. y"",'"" attcr his return trom .TW/wr to Loniow, as. Hunt vavs from H'lntljur? How 
u the KinrguardfA^ And especially thole Dangerous Words ot his. Then he ma) uifdy 
be taken ojf', orto thueftcit ; which do liiiTicicn'ly argue, not only his being Privy to 
ihcDerign, but gohir to prove his being an IntininKiu therein. 

4. For tVic Readers fuller latisi^adion concerning this Sijbje>2:, thefc Particulars arc 
to be noted, v/i. 

That the King wcnito J fivlfor about the i "^thoi Attgiifi 1678. as appears by Sir Tic. 
Dclcniaii: Teftimony at ike Tryals. 

That Mr. fitiifon Cjimc trom IVindfor the 19^/^ of- Ak^uJ}^ and went into the Nortli 
thc4'i> or SetreTiii'a- following. 

As to the Latter, his going into thciVorr/j, the Books of Entries of Paficngcrs in tiic 
'Sorthern Coach hive been examined, and the 4.'^ ot Sefttmbtr is tound to be the ve- ' 
ry day he tookCo;icli tor the Nor.' /; at London-, hi; going to Windfor is proved by Mr. 
Burpn, who met him the l ytb of Atigttjt as he came hotn Dockets Hprfe-racc, which on that day. 

That Mi'.yevifoa in his Letter writes thus, Beif/^ come from Vyitidfor, I fvent to take 
my have of Air. Inland before I took, my journy hao the North, arid Mr. Ireland asked 
me vbat News from IVindJcr ? Hov' does the King; fa/s his time? &c. Which notori- 
ouily proves, that his Ditcourfc with Mr. Ireland, was when the King was at Wind or, 
and al(y that it was alter Mr. [feaifcn Cdmc fmm K'indjor, and before he went into the 
North, VIZ.. betwixt the igr/i ot Ait^ufi .md zhc .:\sh oi S<-ptember, and it implies that 
it was immediately after his coming from IVindjor, by the qucftion, iVhat nni'sfrom 
If'ln 'fit ? and leems alio to intimate, that \lr.heland had not long been in Ixndcn, as be- 
ing eager of News h'om 1 1 indjor, which at th:'.t time he might it rehJcnt in Lo7tdon 
have had every zr/ D.;y hy Bedin^fitld's, and other Letters, 'f hat this time does marly 
agree v.-ith .V^Ttf/j ?«;w's Evidence at 7?f/<jw<j'i Trial, \yho fu'cars that ■ llie law IrfiLmd 
b-Tein Lnn'ion uboii'MheTimc the King went to H'tndior ; and there is not above 5* or 
6 Days dilttrcnce, fee ^f2i/f?i'>v/7(/^ Trial, Fol. 87. There as Grti,':7M repeats their Evi- 
deuQe, Sir Jo. Siuthcot an J his Family (laid with /re/^w--/ till the i9»/j. which \<^th was 
the vey day he came Poll horn Staffer djhire to Lcndcn, and wasfecn by Mi'. fcni;07i. 

"Thu Irdandwa ' t: ijlh n't December, und Mr. Jcnifins Letter was Wiit troni 

Rea.Ung the ig'^ , and it is clear by the Letter, ihat Mr. Jcnijcn had then 

no notice of hclan'.L being tfyed. 

Tliat Mr. Smith (aPv;<::c) hath fincc by h.u Letter to Mr. Boires confirmed the 
Truth of what Mr. "Jinifin .ri.iU'-, t/xz-. That he cold his Fraher and Hmi at his Fach.ers 
Houfc at^^/it-w;/^, immediately up'ii thctirftpifcovery of the Plot thole very \\'ords 
Mr. heL',jd\\,\d fpoken to him; then certainly it remains (carcely polliblc to imagin 
that unlcii the matter were exaftly true, M-. jewi/uw, a Gentleman ot a very tair Temper 
and bobev lite, lliould report (iicn ^^'ords .;? delivered by Air. Ireland, his Kinfman,and 
a Ki:i1"man very dear in his elleem, and rcpor: them to his own Father old .\h-. yemjon 
uid Mr. ^'/w;;i>, and that at that time when they were all Rcm(t»'fis, and Inland highly 
valued by them all; nor is it lets abfiird to conceive, xhAt'Mr. Smith, as is (aid, aPrieil 
^i Ireland Wdi, ihould confirm the Words of Mr. 7fW{,''oWj (o long after (pokcn, and that 
wjicn to witncls to tlieiti, was even to cut the throat of Ireland^ Reputation and Truth, 
3ud give a very ihvnr (lab to the 2?ow;y/j Caule. Certainly the thing teems to look as if 
wfitwitii a-Vw^^i-frtv;. 

5;. it appc.u's ih^naji undeniable "I'ruthjthat Mr Ireland w^a in London the i xth or i ph ' 
of >^/»^(t/' 1^78. atiuthcncc takinga journey into Staffordjh/rc'; he returned and was 
feen in London and difcourled by Kir. fentjonihe 1 c)th ef the (an>e Month, from whence 
'tis probable, having trar.lacted (pmething of rZic Af<7r;er zw U/tnd, he might imniedi- • 
ateiy return. 

Keithcrdo I know any rational Objeftion againft theclearnels of the tnith evidenc;-d 
thereby, unlets the three following Objecl-ions v/eigh with (btne. 

Ohj, 1. The credit and quality of Ibme of the Witnellcs, who tettitie, they t:iw Mr, 
Irilfipd in Stajfcrdjhire on thofc Days, wherein he i> affirmed to have b(?en in Londi n. 

An'- To this 1 fhall only anfvver, that the Credit of tb.c VVitncflcs, ot boih fides 
nay. be (6 far. falved, as t is p^iITblc to atfirjri, one and the (iime pcrtbn may be in London 
and 5r<»j!f<>r/?j;>:e (btne part oF the fa -ne Day i thcditVnncebcipg not fb great betwixt Vrh 


* C75 

P).icc5, but the joLirny (elpccially by Poll:) m;iy be ca!;iy performed j neither is it ini- 
probable,-^ that Mr. 7r«//zw(/, who was fb actively concerned in the Plot, and in the nature 
oi- aTreallircrtlierein, (hould have trequent occaiionto travel by Day and by Night bc- 
tvy'ixt London and Staff'ordjlnre^ his Prelence benig equally necelTary to both places, cfpt- 
cially in (iich a critical time of Expe£tancy, as that of the Kings bemg at U'lndjor then was. 
Add hereunto, that Mr. Jrfii?»^himfelr conleffedinhis Dil'courfewith Mr.j^fwz/cWjthathe 
had rode poft trom Staffordjhire to London that day, yet was not weary : a journey, which 
many other Perfbnshive p«"tormed in lels then the (pace ot one Day, part ot the Niglit 
being alio, in that qfually very hot month ot Augufi^ more convenient for travelling then 
the Day ; now lffi4ch ajourney were undertaken by In /,/^/^one day? why not another? 
why not many days, according as the Urgency ol his grand Affairs, and the teeming pre- 
gnancy of them might requtre ? 

Obj. z. If this Evidence be true, why was it hot produced before, or at the Tiya! of 
ifljitebread, &CC. being lb material tor thcclearingof the Truth ? 

Anf. The matter was a long time kept (ecTet in tbe BreallsotyoUng Mr.Jctiifon and his 
Father, being both (f^£?;) Romanills, and 5»-//fii a Prielt, andfecurod from the know- 
ledge of any Protellant j neither did Mr. Boii'es receive Mr. yeni(cns letter of Difcovery 
( though otten prelled by him to declare his Knowledge, upon the Kings Proclamation 
of Pardon) till Decemlef i^t/j 1678. which was two days after the Tryal ot Inland, 
Now the matter having received it's Determination in the Arraignment and Condemnati- 
on of the faid Ireland, . no probability appearing, that it vvould be again relumed anj rein-, 
fiftedon, no further Divulgarion waim^de thereof; Andimlelsnew provocation had been 
given by reviving the matter at Whitibraads'Xxy-A, it had polLbly lain aileep forever j 
ibthatwhat of Indecency may be imputed in combating the Ghoft of the deceaied is more 
properly reterrable to the importun;.te arguings or inltancesof his (urviving Friends, then 
then even to the juil: Vindication of the Truth. 

Obj. 5. The conhdent alfeveration olr the (iiid IrcLmd, and the folemn proteftation 
of his innocency, and of his continuing in Staffoydjbh-e the days he was alledged to be 
here in London^ Ihall have the room at the third and latt oh)-j6fion. 

Anf. ifi. I contels this had not a licrlc inlluerrce upon me ; tor I acknov/ledge my 
ftlf fiibjeCt to the compalHonate Icntimenrs of humane nature ; but the (ulnc evidence 
above mentioned whith convinced me, will 1 doubt not, b.iniih allhLiitatiou as to this 
matter from the minds of others, except of thofe, who out ot guilt or incercft are refolved 
to Ihut the door a^tinft all kind of (Iicistaction whatfoever. 

X. How far equivocations, faliicies, mental referves, and other ^iz/roe^ may be al- 
lowed, even to dying perfbns, in the Raiiw.n Church, provided they contribute to the 
advancement of the Cutholick Caufc, as they phrafe it, would require a large held of 
dilcourfc ; but the clearnels of the Evidentc jultifying Mr. Irela7:dh being m London^ 
notwithlfanding his and his witneiles athrmations to the contrary, doth give i:;ll- ground 
of l(:ruple, that a large freedom is allowed to them on that account ; but it woukl be too 
tedious to turn over the Popilh Caluifts, for the deciding ot that controvcriie ^ leaving 
theretore the Scholaitical and skirmilhing part to abler pens, I ihall content fnyfclfto 
exhibit one paiTage (relating to the matter in hand) mentioned in a Book called the 
T^e/iz/ri Catechilm, compofed (almoll 60 years finc<) by a Member oixhc Romt^n Church, 
but not of the IgnatianO\<ifc. His words mentioned, lib. j.CVjp. ii. at the end of that 
Chapter are thele. They (fays he, fpeakingotthe_j<^/«;>i ) hnvearukififmcficc, that 
men are bound to accufe thcmfclves to their ConfeJJ(:rs,and not then/felves o?dy^hnt all their 
Confederates alfo ; and (^for the Aiagifirate')the Malefatlor being condemned to die,after he 
hath once made ConfeJJion of hie fins to hL Gh.n'Uy Father,he is not tied to reveal it to his 
'^udge,nay it is lavfulfor htm tofiand tn fiif' denial t hereof at t he time ofhts Execution, as 
beingclear before God, though he ferfiji in a Ice, after he hath once dif barged the depth 
of his confcience tohts Confeffcr. A thing (that the fame Author fubjoyns') that breedeth 
much fcruple in the mind of a fudge, ■}vho otherwije is greatly quieted in conjcience, vjheti 
an offender adjudged to die, hoivjotvcr he have beforetime fiood in denial of the Faif, ytt 
at the time of his death conffeth the Trnth. 

An AbfiraBoftheM2Ltena.\Pa.S^iiges at theTrials of Mr. Ireland and Mr. Whitebread, 
relating to Mr. Irehnd^s being in London aboutthe middle of Augud 1678. tending 
to clear much of the matter ofFaB mentioned in the foregoing Papers. 

The things for which Ireland was indicted, were. The conjpiring the King^s Death 3 
etlfo. That be did indsavour and confave to c bangs and alt sr the Ejtligton eftabli^edm 


the Naticn, <»./ introduce Tofery iv the roim cf it. ( pag. 1:5. of hthvA''s Trial j 
And in oiVcr thereunto that i'lclerhh^ and GVc/a-s" {lioi:ld..irart nateihe King (p. 19.) 
which Rclblve iVc /,»,./ ligned about the 14/ /j oi ^-Ipril 1678. (p. 19,10.) iicltring 
and Gro^'e taihng, in ^-)«^«/ tollowing, Mr. irtA.W and others met at Hrorcwjf'.s Cham- 
ber, and their held a dole Conliiltation how to accomphth their Del:gn ot killing the 
King, whidi tlicy detc-rmin Ihouldbe by Four Riitlians , whom they achially iiircand 
dilpatch aw.ivro ICinJjcr, in orc'er to the acconiplilhing ih;it molt B.aharous and inoit 
Trealonable Project: where Dr. O.Jtts f-Av Kir. hiLrid prelent. ( f. 2.6. and 40.) The 
Ruttiuns alio t.uluig to kill the King at IVindjor, they delerniin , That I'lciiring and 
Grozr Ihould go on, and that Ccw^eri fhould be joyncd with them, to Ailaflinate the King 
in his Morning- walks at Nnr-Alarkit ; this they had taken (o ihongly upon them that 
they were very eager toaccompliih it. ( p. 41, ) Thtle things Ire/md ■w-^is accufed of by 
^^Ir. Bedlse ; Dr. 0<r.VJ athrming that he took his leave ot Mr. /rcA.'wc/ in ins own Cham- 
ber between the Twclkh and Four and twentieth ot j-lti^tijl^ ht/und being then Writing 
a Letter as Dated from St. Omers, and that atterward when Dr. OateiWi-mtoFiKvicis 
Chamber, /re7rf»// came thither alio ; Ibthat he law him twice about a F<jrinight within 
y^ugiiji.( p. 60.") Sarab i'.tjw Conlirmed both their Evidei ce by Swearing that ILc law 
him about the fame time at the Door of his own Houlc: (p. 57.) The(e things Mr. Ire- 
/<W(/ denys, and indcavours to difprove their Evidence only as to time, bttaulc not in 
London \\\ AHgiifi lalf, (;. f. in A- D. 1678.) but in Stnjfvrdjhtre ; ( ^.46. and 5'6.) an<l 
this he attempts chietly to prove againft Dr. Oatcs, in Order to the Nullitying his Evi- 
dence, and lo contiutntly affirms himfelt not in Lir.dcn , tor the whole ot that Au^ufi^ 
this he offers to prove by Twenty W'ltneiles, (p. 44. and 5:6.) and lays, Firll, hewould 
mdeavour to prove that there was not TwoW iinelles ag.iinlt him j tor that which Mr. 
Oat^i faid ot his being at Harcourts Chamber in At-gtijf, was tal(th>r he was all Augufi 
long out of Town in Sttijfcrdjhire ; upon the Third Day he Vicnt dov.'n to Stafjordjhire, 
with my Lord y:i/?ow, and his Lady, and his Sun, and Sir "John Southcot^ and his Lady ; 
and laith he, ail thele can Tcfcify that 1 went down with them, here is Mr. John AJhn 
in Town, if he may be found , who was in my Company all Augufi in Stajjurdjhire, 

But to fave him that Labour, the Kings Evidence offered to prove that he was in 
Town at that time, for which they Swore Sarab Tain, who affirmed flie knew Mr. 7re- 
Icnd, and that Ihe (iiwhim in Town in Auirufi laft at his own Houle, ( which was at a 
Scriveners in Rt'JJ}l-f/-rett in Co-Jtnt Garden ) about a week before Oie went with my 
Lord Arlington to /^«c/,'or,which Was about a week after the King was gone thiiher ; which 
Sir TIjo. DcliTKunQiid, was about the 1 ■^tb of Augtifl. Hnwll;e kncwhim, was,becaufe 
he came often to her Mailers houfc, that was Mr. Grofes , the Perlon Condemned with 
h:m, averring that he was the Man thit broke open the Pacquet of Letters, That her 
Mafter carried about attrwards ; and he Sealed all the Pacquets that went beyond the 
Seas, and he opend them ifill when the Anfwers returned thtm back again, f. 5-7. 

Againrt: whofe Evidence he oppolid that of his Silfer Ann Inland, and his Mother E- 
hiwr IrJiwdj who both faid, that on Sntiirdny the Third of Augufl he (et out to go into 
Staffordjinre, and he continued there till it w.isa Fortnight before Michaelmas, which 
(la^slhe Siffer)! remembered by a very good Circumlf mcc, btcaufe on the iVidneJday 
beffjre, my Brother, and my Mother and 1 were invited out to Dinger, we ilaid there all 
night, and all Thiir'day night, -awA Friday night my Brother came home, and on Satur- 
dmy de fet out for Sr^ffordjhire. p. 5" 8, 59. 

Sarah Pain being again asked, if fhe wasfurc that fhe faw him in the Place fhe men- 
tioned, and about the time? Sheanfwered, yes, I am fare 1 law him at that very Place 
and at that time ; but Mr.7rf/^»(/thcn confidently profeficdhe never knew her, although 
(ht was WT.Grcvi s Sir'vant,ind uledtocarry him Letters from her Mailer's ; his words 
arc, / profifs I do not knovhtr, ^o people may come to me, and yet I not know them, end 
P^e having hen Mr. Groves feri'atit might have brought trie Letters, and yet I not remem- 
her her.^. 5-8, ^<^. 

Bur my L. C. Jufiice thus recapitulates Sarah J'a'ns Evidence againft him : fhe fays 
that fhe faw you in London about the i oth or 1 of Augujt, and fhe makes it out by a 
Circumflance, which is better Evidence, then if fhe had Gonu;and Swore the precifc day 
wherein fhe law you j for Ifhould not have been fiitisfied, unlefsfhehadgivenme a good 
account why fhe did know it to be fiich a Day. She does it by Circumflance, by which 
we muft Calculate fhefawyou about the or i^th day; fhe went to my Lord Ar- 
Itngtcns iX liich a day, a week after the King went to tVindfor, and ths« was about the 

I jth. 


i^i^tb, aild flic fiw you a week before fhe went to my Lord JrU7;g!^ovs, which muft be the 
x-Ltb'or I'^th. You (ay you wcntout ot Town the 3<-/ot"^i/.'_^«//, who cm Swear you d:d nuc 
come back again? To which Ireland (ays;, all the houfecah teftify 1 did iiot come to my 
Lodging j his Mother alio affirmed it, but they were Parties, p. 3-9. 

Dr. Oates ,h;re comes in with his hi tormation, and reports it to my Lord C. Jitftice thus. 

My Lord, whenever we had a mind to come to Town, we commonly writ oiir Letters, and 
let them come to Town two days aher us • (0 that we might prove by the VVritiiig of fucli 
Letters, if any QnelHon did arile, that We could not be ar fuch a Place at afuch tunc; And 
when we pretended to go into the Country, we have gon and taken a Chamber in the City, 
and have had frequent Cabals at our Chambers. There Mr. Ireland writ a Letter as D.ucd 
at St. Omers, when I took my leave of him at his own Chamber, which was betwixt the i 2.1 h 
and 'L/\.thm Lnjtdon ; he was there; and ahcrwards when I went to Ft7n2w/tj Chamber he came 
thither, a Fortnight or Ten Days at leall, 1 am fin-e it was in AuguH. f. 60. 

Upon which, and what went be!oi-e my Lord Ch.Ji/fiue Rcfiefls as follows. 

Here are 3 Witneffes upon Oath about this one thing : Here is Mr. Bedlue, that Swears the 
Faft upon which the C)uelbonari(cs to be in Aiigafi ; tnat you deny, and lay you were out of 
Town then; he produces a Maid here, and fhe Swears that about that time, which by Calcu- 
lation muftbe about the irrbor i^fb, fliefiw you going iiito your own houfc. And here 
is a 31^ Witnefs, who Swears he knows nothing of the matter of Fact, but he knows you were 
in Town then, and that he rook his leave of you as going to St. Omcrj.p. 60. 

In the next place /rt'/^^Wproduceth one ttm7/(Jw, a Coachman, toteftiHe that he was in liis 
Company from the 'ytb of Aagiifl to the 1 6th, and at that time he was with him 5 or 4, days at 
my Lord Afio»s Hoiiiint Hxall in Srirjfhrdjhire, f,6i.. [ Inwhich tiraeMr./re^zwc/mijrht ea- 
fily Ileal a Journey to Lo«Jo??, and return without notice being takeh of it; and this miglit k- 
the time in which Sarah Vain law him. j Alio f/.zrri/Sw affirmed that he was with Mr. Ireland 
at Wefichefier, and that there he leh him ; ( And here let it be remembred that Mr. Ireland con- 
fidently averred himfelt to be in StaJfordJIiire-Ai Augtijl, f. 5-6. and one of his own VVitnciTes 
declared him to be even in another County, which he granted to be true, but came ofFwiih ihis 
Evafion, \n Stajfordpire or thereabout. P. 61,61.^ 

Toumay here take a 'viewoflrchndsDyingJ-VvrdsjConcerKhrg the thiKg in Hand,dclivered January 
24. at the Common Vlace of Execution. 

We are come hither upon theTheatreof the World, and we do conceive we lye under an 
obhgation to fjjeak. And i^ wddoconfefs that we do pardon all and every one whatfbever 
that had any Intereft or Concern,or Hand in the taking av/ay our Lives, idly. We do here pro- 
feft and acknowledge, wc are obliged, that it we were Guilty of any Treafon, or knew any Per- 
fon faulty therein, although he were our Father, we would deteft and di'cover him. And as 
for our Selves, wewouldbegathoufandand a tlioufand Pardons boih of God and man; but 
feeing we cannot be believed, we mufl: beg leave to commit our felves to the mercy of Almighty 
God, and wc hope to find a pardon ot Hmi. 

As for my own Part,havingbccn twenty years outof £;7^^A;?;^,andthen coming over, I wasrc- 
folved to take a Journey into 5riJ^cr(//7j/>e ; and letting out in y^w^g-///, and not returning back 
to this Town untill before the i ^th day of September,as many Witneffes can teftifie : for 1 believe 
an hundred or more faw me there ; Therefore now, how in this time we fhould be accuied of 
Trealbnablc Stratagems, I do not well know or in any wile underftand. 

Thffs much out the Tryals of Ireland, &■€. 

But becaufe Mr. W<7rWs not being in LoWw, from about the beginning ol Augufi till a- 
bout the beginning of September, A. D. 1678. is urged and profecuted with more importu- 
nity in the Tryals of White abas IVhttebread, &c. I (hall here prcfent you with the whole that 
referred to this matter,as debated in the Court, only leaving out every thing that had not a fpeci- 
al Reference to the thing Intended, to wit, the Proving Mr. /re/^W out of Town for the whole 
forementioned time. 

IVhitebread. My Lord, I have only this, ahd t defire to be heard in this point, to prove that 
Mr. Oates was millaken in his Evidence that he gave at the laft Tryal againftMr. Ireland. 

L. C. J. Look you. I mull break in upon you ; you have been told (b often, all of you have 
been told it, and yet you are upon the former Trials again. You are noW upon your tryal for 
your Life, if you could have disproved any thing that he (iiid at a former Tryal, you fhould 
have taken ajegal way and convi6lcd him of Perjury ; but now to charge him with a Printed 
paper is not fair. You mud (peak to what he Hiys now. 

IVhitebread. He (;iys the fame now. But all that I (ay is this, if he be not honcft, he can be 
witne(s in no cafe. I fuppofc if any one can prove him not Trobifs Tejitfy his Teftimony is not 
to be received in any cafe. 

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L. C. 7- ^^ '^^'^^' ^^'1^^ y*^^ prove ih.u? Cjuicon, I'lc tc.ich yoii a Utile I.ogitk: ]f you 
will come to contradict a Witntli, you ought to do it in ;i maiccr winch is the piclciit debate 
here ; for it" you would convict liiniot any thini; that he laid in Iie'.inJs Tryal, we mull try 
Ireijftli Caule over as^ain. Hut it you will lay any thuij^ againii: what he lays now, do. 

IPhttebreaJ. I'hit which 1 would aledge is this, it he be convicted of Perjury iy one Cafe, 
he is iwt to be believe>.l in another. 

L. C. J. You t;iy right, if he be conviifted. 

lybitebreaJ. Ho is not only then an incompetent Witnefs, tor he cannot be faid to be Pro^w 
T(ji:s. but he is Improh.-is. Now this is that I can prove. 

Mr. fuit.Fetn'jcrton. N.iy, you mull llicw it by a Record. 

L. C. y. You cannot have 16 little underllanding, you that have been, and were to be fb 
great a Man among them, had been Provincial, and was to have been (bmew hat elli.*. J have 
told you already that to prove him to be a man that hath no Faith in him he mult be convidted. 
You mull have indicl^cd him, and convicted him,ot the thing wherein he did commit Perjury, and 
then he had been prepared to julUtie himlelt. But Ihail you come now, and at this your Tryal, 
and prove what he laid at 5frf/tyr's Tryal, and CoUmansTxyA, -And In'Iajuls Tryal? And mult 
we examine what matters have receiv'd a Verdict and a Judgement there? tor conllder what 
will be the coniccjuence ot it ; it it Ihouldbe tallt, you there arraign a Verdict; You Siould 
have convi>ftedhimot the fallhood tirlt. 

If^ntebnaJ. I dclirc the Jury tot.tke notice, that he does not IticktoiIicTcftimony that he 
gave then, for if he does it was talli-. 

L. C. y. They mult not take notice of any thing that was done, at a former Tryal, unlefi it be 
fpoken of now. P. 69. 

L.C.y. N.rt!). Do not call any witnefTts to prove what he laid then, but to difprove what 
he hath laid now. 

H.ircoart. Mr. Oii^wdidaccufemcof payinsj Fourlcore pounds at my Chamber, and he did 
fay afterwards it was at U'tld-houfe. 1 have Perlons to jullihewhatwasdone at myown Cham- 
ber ; and he fays, Mr. 7)'«/rt«.Avas by ; now here are Witnefles to prove that M;". Ireland wo.s 
in Stjfordjhire all the month of Angufi, therefore he could nut be prefent. F. 70. 
Mr. f. Fembtrton. That was urged before ; pray do not inlift upon that,it hath received a Tryal. 

L.C.y. Pie tell you what he lays, and I'lc ask hinuhc queltion : Dr. Oates, it is liippolcd 
by your Teltimony, that Mr. /rf /<?»// and Mr. Hdruiitrt were together when this Fouilcore 
pounds was paid, tor the Vilkins that went to V/tndfor to murther the Kirg. 

Dr. Onus. I never laid fuch a v/ord. Htircoiirt. Here it is iji the Tryal. 

L. C.y. 1 Itandnotby the Printed Tryal, it is no Record in Lav/. In fhorr, W'erc Mr. Ire- 
Lindand Mr. Harcourt together at that time? Dr. Oates. No, they were not. 

Gavan. He did then fay, that he did receive of Mr. Irf/rfWi^, the li/ of Seprewifo-, xoi. that 
he borrowed of him : now the i J of September he was at Hojcobel. 

Dr.Oatej. My Lord, I was not pofitive as to the Day ; but as near as I remember ( thofe 
were the words I faid) it Wis the zd of September ; but whether it was the Firlt, b'econd. Se- 
venth, Eighth or Ninth, I would not be politive in it. 

T-jen toe FrifonerscaHedPeiviixland bis IVife, and Giftord andhis IFife ; andGHTotdfiood up. 

Gtjj'ord. My Lord, I was here the lalt SelHons, where I did tellitie the Seeing of Mr. Ireland 
in Staffordjhire on the Z;\.'h o'i Ait^itji:, Barthobmew-day, and the next day after; at which 
time \Ir. Oates (aid that he faw him here in Tuwn. But Mr.O.-;fM could not be particular in 
every thing \ but at lalt he came to a circumftancc, and averred that the firlt or fecond ot Sep- 
tember he did receive res. oiMv.Irelandin Harcourts Chamber^hc faid it was about the Fait-day. 
Dr. Oates. That was as near as I rcmembred. Giford. Here is in Court at leaft fix People thac 
know it; I fa v/ him leveral other of thole days; but theic fix People converfed with him 

Mr. y. Pembertc?}. How do you know all that ? 

L. C. y. North. Come, come, you mult not fpeak as to what he faid in Irelands Tryal. 

L.C.y. WTiat time svas it that Mr, H<irco«rf and Mr. Ireland Qonietx^d together about this 
fame bufincfs ? 

Dr. Oates. My Lord, I do not charge Ireland., but I charge Harcourt with being at IVild-houfe, 
and that there Co/fWrt>; met him, and that there was greatelt part of the money, which was car- 
ried back to Harcourt s Chamber, and j^vcn to the perlbn that was to carry 1: down to Wmdjor ; 
but Mr. Celeman was gone away before, and had left a Guiny behind him, which was given to 
the meffcnger tor Expedition. 

L. C. y. I am miilakcn if you have not teftificd that Ireland was in Town in yiuguft and Sep- 
tember with Htircourt. Dr. Oates. Irelandiook his leave ot Lcndiin bctwixt the %tb and i it hoi 
Augiiji^ 05 to go to St. Omers, p.Ji. Lor^ 

Lord Ch. jHJ}. Here is the matter, they iniift have rhAit , though there be never (b much time loft, 
and patience fpeiir : (ay they, we mull prove and contradict men by fuch matters as we can; People may fivear 
down-right thinjjs, and 'tis impo.llblc to contradict them j bu:we w. 11 call witneiTes to prove thofc particulars that 
can be proved: iay whereMr. //-cAw;/ was in ^/(jk/?? Dr.O.itei: He took his leave of us in Town in ^?<fay?,and 
that was between the Eighth and Twelfth at fiura-o-rj- Chamber 

L.C.f. What do you infer from /;-ir/(>?;rfj being there then ? Vi. Oata. lie tell you what I defign in it; your 
LordAip may percaive that 1 did methodise my Evidence according to the time ; for I faid this w as our bufincfs in 
jY/»>v7,thism /»/)' ; and now we come to thebulmel'sof ^«^«/?, laid I, we took our leaves of Mr. Jrelinidbitveen 
tlie eighth and twelfth. I fiid in Jii/y Mr./f?;n>;ii was out of Town, but then if your l^ordlliip remembers Ifaid 
he v,as in Town, and took his leave of Mr. /«/-w./ between i he eighrh and the twelfth of yt/ugiijf. 

L G. J. Was Mr. IreLvid in Fenwicks company at that time in uiagiifi ? Dr. Oates. Yes my Lord he was 
when he took his leave. 

L.C.f. Did tluycalk then of this bullnefs. Dr O/ire; They took their leaves one of another, but as to what 
pirticularthingsof the Plot th.-y fpokeaboiit, Ido not remember. 

L.C.J. Look you now, mind what he lays, /«/<»;</ and .ft»a'/(?/J were together in v^k^wJ? between the eighth and 
thetwelt'th, but being asked. Whether they were met on puTpoleto taikof the Plot ? he lays he docs not remem- 
ber the Particulars. 

Here the Lady Southcot, her Son, and her Diiiighfer, were called. 

L. C. J. Did you fay that Fenivtck there at the Bar, had converl'e with JreLind m Auguft, for the car- 
rying on of the Plot ? Dr. 0:ites. Yes, my Lord. 

L. C. J. My rule is this in doubtful cafes ; when men arc upon their Lives, I had rather hear what is im- 
pertinent, than not let th-m make a full defence. 

L, C, J. Kurc'j. 1 had rather hear thmgs at a venture, than forbid things at a venture. 

L.-7d. Southcot Jlood up. 

L. C. J. How long were you in Mr. Ireland! company ? 

Lady Southcot. From the nfth of ^ugHJi to the fixteenth. 

L. C. Juji. What every day ? Lady SoHthcot. Yes every day. 

Dr. Oates. My Lord, here is Sarah Pain, who before hath telHhed what flie hath linown in this matter. 
If your LordiTiip pleafe, I delire fl'.e may be called in readinefs to fpeak to it. 

L. C. J. Are you fure it was the fifth ? Lady Southcot. Yes, as fure as I can be of anything. 

Mr. Recorder. Dr.. Oates, yoa had belt keep your Evidence iitire till the laft. 
Thill Sir Jo. Southcot^ culled, and appe.ired. 

L. C. Juji. Did you know Mr. IreLind ? Sir Jo. Southcot. Yes, I did know him by fice. 

L. C. J. Where did you fee him ? Sir Jo. Southcot. I law him the )?A. of Augicfl at St. Albans. 

L. C. y. And did he travel along with you ? 

Sir Jo. Southcot. Yes, he did trd.vei along with us, thefixth, feveath, eighth, and ninth. 

L. C. J: Howcuny days did he tr.ivel along with you? 

Sir Jo. Southcot. He travel'd along with us, four days together, I am fure. P. jz. 

L. C. J. What from the £fth to the ninth ? Sir Jo. Southcot. Yes, Sir. 

L. C. j. Is this all that you can fay : Sir Jo. Southcot. Yes, my Lord. 

L. C. J. But we would knov/ where he was afterwards ; did you fee him alter the ninth ? 

Sir Jt. Siuthcot. My Lord, 1 faw him at St. .-^lir.tns, znd we went from thence Co Northampton, and from thence 
to Coventry, and trom thence to my Lord Ajlons, that is four days ; and Ilaw him7Z-'«r/^a;', Ilaw him Friday, Sa- 
turd.jy, and Motiity tollown-.g: Tueiday, I hadoccafion togo furijier into th:; Countrey, and he went along with 
us ; fo I faw hiin Tuej.lay, Wedtnldaf, Thurjday, and Fryday, afterwards. 

L. C. J. Why then, you faw him at leaft twelve days ? S.\ Jo. Southcot. Yes. 

L. C. j. Have you any more. Then Mr. Edward Southcot fiood up. 

L. C. J. Were you here, when Ireland was tried ? Sir Jo. Southcot. No. 

L. C. J Did you fee Mr. Ireland in Augufl la't ? 

Mr. Southcot. The third of Aagufl, he came down to my Lord Aftons at Staamore, they Ik'A fo ; but I 
cannot fwear lie came that night, but I faw him very early the next morning; the Sfh. we went to St. Albans, 
and we kept on till we came to Tixall, and \ was in his company from the i\.th. to the 1 6th. 

L. C. J. Why, you hear what he fays, he v/as in Company with him every day from the -j.?/;. to the iCth. 

C.ivat;. Call Mrs. H.Ji-«wf// and her dauglitcr, Mrs Giffhrd, and Mrs. Pendrel. 

Then Mrs. Harewell flood up. 

L. C. J. Did you fee Mr. Irelayid in jJ:igufl iall ? Harewell. I tivi Ireland m Augtift h.&, the i-jth. day; 
he came then to my boufe at IVolvcrhampton, and there he continued every day, and lay m my houlie every night 
till the 2.6th. day. Then young Mrs. Harewell fiood up. 

Harewdl. Mr. Ireland came to our houfe m Staffordshire the i yth. of Aagufl, and flayed there till the 
■LGth. I law him everyday, unlcfs it wilS, Friday, the day before SaJT^o/^Bfip-day, when he went to Litchfitld, 
and returned again. Gavan. My Lord, there is a Pnfoner now in Newgate that can tellitie the fame. 

L. C. J. Worth. Would you ask your fellow if you be a Thief? he is in for the fame offence. 

Cavan. My Lord, I delire to know, if a man be not convicted of the fame otFence, whether Ik be not a good wilnefs ? 
. L. C. J. North. Ifhe Hand charged with the fame Plot, his Evidence is of littk weight. 

Then Elifabeth V%.eihDgJloodup. 

L. C. J DA you fee Mr. Ireland m Aiigufl'i Keiling. Yes, my Lord, I did. p. 7J. 

L. C. J. Where did you ice him ? Keiling. I ii.ii\x\mx. Wolverhampton, liKie he ')iz%{camSaturday the 
lyth. to Monday, and then 1 went to fee my Mother, and came back again on Thurjday, and found him there, 
and there he was till the zeth. Then jlood up Mr. Gifford. 

L.C.J. When did you fee Mr. /«/»wrf? (..iff'ord My hoid, Mr. Ireland czmeiolVoherfMimpten the j-/ t/ci. 
ai .Augulf, and be ftayed there till the z6th. it was of a Monday, I remember it by feveral citcumllancev 
, L. C. f. Did you know Mr Ireland''. Gifford. I never faw him before. 

! L. C. y. Do you know it was the fame that died ? Gifford. My Lord, here was my brother in Town, who 
fiw him executed, and bs did aflure me he was the lame. I faw him iyain the zrf ef Sept^mlier, and the 7 th- of S*;»- 


tsnttr again, and the \o:b. and the i itl<. my Lord, he was the fimc imn I Ivlicvf, bccanfs my brother told 
r.v: lo. p. 74- 

iJir Cr. iru/.xf. Gentlemen of the Jury, you hive hnvd the Priloficfs, and they hsvchid a cjreardi'al ot'tiiiie 

b tATiulvC liidr.diiaKC; but the jrcai.ll fnvt ut'thcir dotliuc hmh Ktn to invaliditc rhf TclHmoiiy of Mr. O-ires ; 

and '..hit Is the EvidtnLe they hayc brouijht agjinlt him? they tell yon firlV, that he did no: ccme over iiuhai 

Company that he lays he came over with. And v. hercas he hath tw orn he was here the z^t/: of ^pri/, they have 

takena great deal of pains by riftccn or fixtecn Witnellfs, to prove that he wasail tlic time at St. Ot/irrs.—?. y6. 

6:t C. Le-ji:t.'. Now as tor NUv C) i.'*; Tertimony, and what they have to fay to him ; in the ftll 

place, they have brought a young Gentleman, Mr. Hils/er, and he lays he did not come over with him, and 
there 'tis one agamlt one, but Ur. 0-i.v; hath Sworn it, and huh given you fuch convincing CircumlhnceshoV 
he loll his raoncy, cj-e. lb that. I leave it to you, which of the two is in the right, and ought to be bejicvcd. 
But then, my Lord, as to the rell of the Witnelics, here are a great many brought over to prove that Dr. O/rriv 
was all the «hile at St. Orncrs ; but I lliali bring you a confiderable number of Witneircs, lo prove that Dr. 
O.J.v/ was then in, and that all thcfc Perlbns arc millaken : They do all pitch upon the hrft of M?)', to 
lix it upon a tune, wherein he lays he was here in Town : L<ut Gentlemen, 1 hope you did obferve, that as to other 
things and time that were not lb ncceflary as to ths matter, there they were pUafed to niiftafvc, and todilTcr 
one from another, to contradict one another; for fome of them laid he went away and left St. Ow/r/j- the lo/A. 
of f'«.v, others tlic a 5.-/. others, which was the fame lltmifl} Gardiner, that he (hy'd till "jiily : Truly half that 
->driAncc in the time which is neccflary, would fervc our turn, we are but for eight days time, that is, he was 
not above eight or ten days here; truly tliefe Gentlemen will be fure to fpcak puiK'lually to all thule eight day's 
-that hurt the Prifoners, but they will vary thirty days at another tune, that hurts them not : Why may they not 
be milUken as well with that portion of tunc, as tlicy were in the other, wherein they fo much ditfcrcd one from 
another? But I Ihall give you moft mfallable proof by and by, Mr. Onta was in Evglniirl at that tmie, 
that he fiid he wis m EtigLmd : This he docs in the Trials of Whitcbre>id, ire. from Pn^. -jij. to P:jg. %$. to 
which the Reader IS rclentd. Png. 77. 

S;r Ch. Ltvtns. Thai truly, my Lord, thiy are fixed upon another great matter to blcmifh Dr. 0/i.V;asto Mr 

IreUnA, a perfon that is dead andoutof the way. Mr. ;»-t'/</»;-/lvdilibc-c-n bjnged upon that Evidence, to far it was 
believed, but now after all this will thcfc come to qucliion the Evidence that was given againll Mr. Irt- 
l.i:i.{. They have likewife, my Lord, brought my Lady i'^i/ff/vof, and fome other peifons who give you an Evii 
dcncccooccniing Mr.yre.'.TB.y, that Ix fliould notbehereat this time ; bvirGentlemen under favo ir, Mr. Ojjff j hath 
fvorn before, and he hath now fworn it again, that Mr. /i-f//7?;.'/wasat tha- time in Lonctov, and Gentlemen, I will 
continn him in that by another Witnefs that did ice him here in 1 own at that time. And when you have two Wit- 
nelTes for the King upontheir Oaths come and tcllifieit, Ihope you will beleivc them, rather then other perfons 
that tellifte only by Hear- fay. It was the matter then in Illue, and had laved his Life if it had been truc,but though 
it bcnuw Utiod, and none could think it would be again llarted, they would make that an Objection, but by 
chance wehavcaWitneGillill to jiveyou fatistaction, rhatMr. /7v/rt7/rf was in LowA// at that time that Mr. Oittcs 
didli.earhim to be. Wcwill begin with that Witiicfs about Inland And then we will call our WitnefTes to prove 
that Mr O.1U! vi^.s in En^livi.i, and did come over when he laid he did. CMSnr/i/} Pir/)i (who was fworn ) 

Sir Ch. Lc-jtns. What time did you Ice Mr. Irelf.nd in London ': did you fje him in ^-.i^a^nfl lall ? S. P/rni 1 iii'.v hini 
about 7 or 8 days before I came to my Lord Charnl>erlaiH,a.nd that wl.s abcnu a week It-lore thcKing went toM'iTidfar. 

L.C.f. Where did you fee him ? S. Ptihi. At hts owndoor m Riiffcl-Jfreit. 
. L.C.I. Did you fpeak to him ? S. Pain. No, 1 knew him very well, and fiw him as I came by.!. Hadnot youcarried many Letters to him ? 6. Pnin. Yes, levcral Letters, ^. 78. 

Sir C,J. Livin,: But where did you live before? S.Pain. Hived at Mr. Grove's. 

Sir C.'r Levins. Did not Mr. Iretand ufe toccmc there too ? 6'. /"a;?/. Yes, he did often. 

LfC.'juj!. V/ as any one talking with i>f/.f«./ then? S. Peiin. ^'o. 

SirC/j. Levitis. How long did you look upon him ? did you lee him go in ? did you fee his face or his back ? 

a. Pain. I law his face, and made him a Courtelie. 

L.C. /. This fhefaid to i^rfAjMdV lace. Mr. /.Z)a/^eB. Your Evidence is, that Mr. /rf//»»rf went out of Town thc^. 
oi yta^itfl, and /he lays (he law him about that time, which nuill be the laf^ov i^th of ./lugiift. Cavau. How 
does Ihe prove it i Ihc docs not fay Ihe fpoke with him. 

Mr. fiijf. Oilbcn. She fivcars it. 

Sir Ch. Levins, Now we mv.A prove what time the Kingwent to Windfor. 

L. C f. Sir Iho. DoUvinn, what time in Aagiift did the King go to I'Vmdfor laft Summer ? 

SnTfjt.Doleman. H)clieve (I cannot charge my memory fo well) itwas the 15;^, itwas about the i if A or 1 3. 

L. C. y. Was my Lord Chamberlain there then ? i'. Pam. My Lord Ch.mik-r/ani went after 1 he King. 

L.C.j. Andwhcn do you fay, you (^\i Ireland'* S, Pain. I law him feven or eight days before I wentto my 
Lord ChamberLiins, which was before my Lord went to WtndforfinA that was a week after the King went thither. 

S.rCh. Lruin:. Now Me tell you what Ihe fays ; ihe fays Ihe law Ireland a Week before Ihe went to my Lord 
CliMnberlain'i, and Ihc faw him go into GrovfsHoufe, where licdiduliially go for Letters. She fays fhe faw his 
face, and mace him a Courtelie ; and that this was a week before Ihe went to my Lord C/Mwitr/j/?;;, and that was 
a week after the King v/ent to fVindfir. Now the time that Mr. Odf^/ pitches upon, is between t-he eighth and the 
tvdiihotyfiigiif}, which by computation is the time file fpeaks of P. 7p. 

Cavan. My Lord, wchavc here 16 at leal! aiaford/kireV/knciTcs, who give yon an account of Mr.'a 

bcingoutofLtf^ii/on from the ^d ut Aitgnjl till i.yfh o( September. So that in thefe two things ha hath becricontra- 
di£led without any anfA-ei-, forliefays, the iif^of ^n?n_/? he was with him, when tliey lay he was ini//j/7orrty7v>-?. 

/,. C. ■?. You havcforgotthe maid that fawhim in /-o?;«/Dnthe la.or I 3//;. Gavan. i^li), my Lord, 1 have nor 
And this is it, I anfwcr to it ; ftieis a witnefs that only fays, Ihejull faw him, but did not fpcak to him. 

/, C.J. .She madea Courtcficto him. P. 8 5. Gavan. We were talking now of feeing Ire hmd in yitiguj}, and 
wc prove by Sir. J». Soiithot and all his Family, who fay they began their journey with him the sth oiyiiigufl-, and 
ftaidwith him till the l^th, after the particular Day that fliefpeaks of, you find 7 or 8 of them fwear iTiat they 
ftw him all the time. />. 87. 

I will clofc up the Whole with a little of my Lord Chief jujlices Speech, at the end of the Tryals of IVhitebread, 
fcc. ft. 92, 93. Whichthoughk may DOT at hrlt fccm toanfwcr our particular defign, the demonftratipg Ireland's 


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hting'm LWiio?:, vetir truly anfvversour general dcngii, toconfiiiuthciLulityot' the Plot, and in order thci-onua 
it IS a mpfl noble Argument^ and really merits not. oiiJy the tran-lTibing into this Trail tohil up an empty ipace, 
but even into the memories of all true Proteftants. 

L.C.J. I » ill challenge all the Papifis in Evgl'md to fatisfie any nun that hears mc this day of one piece of Evi- 
dence, which will turn every Proteltants heart againil the P.f/!;y?x. If lb be, they murdered Sir Edmuvd-Bury 
Godfrey, the Plot even by that is in a great meafure proved upon th^ni, by that bafe murther. , And what can 
be a plainer proof of it, than the evidence of this t)ay, which Mr. D,v|'.r'../f produces? Who had notice ( faith he) 
on Afo7j^.»y night, that on the iVJ/Hni'.!;' before it. Sir £d'?n.G(?.'//7-y was i.iii'd ( which falls out to be that very A«- 
turdnj he was hrft miffing) which notice rfas given in a Letter writ by Hanourt to £w£n' another Prieft, that 
Jame S/jfKn/.j/ night, wherein were thefe words, This jsight Sir Edimmd-biiry Godfrey is difpatched -, and I am 
fureif this be true, then no man can fay but they murdered Him. Now thequeilion is, whether it be true orno ? 
To malx :t cut, he produces Mr. CheSroiJid, whom I hope you will not deny to be a Gentleman of one of the bed 
Families of his Country, and of honell Reputation, who fajs, that (jnthtTttefday following thnSafiird/^ySivEd- 
Tniir.d-h:iry Godfrey \yism\ts.'t, he and another were walking together in SMjfi^-.iyZi'i', and that the other Perfoa 
asked him if he Knew of the Death of any JulHce of the Peace at ff4j??« («/?£)■, and when he told him, he had 
heard of no fuch thing ; No, faid he, that is Itrange, you living fomctimes about IVcftimrifier ; for faid he, the 
Wench at the Alc-houie fays. That this morning Mr. Dugd.ile faid to two other Gentlemen, there was ajuilice of 
Peace oT IVefl/xniJIer killed; and Mr. Z)K_jrf<r/f (wears, Thzt w^s Sir Edmrind-iury Godfrey j now it Dugdalebt Rt 
to be believed, that he faw fuch a Letter, as he mullbcif he be not a very great Prophet, to be able to foretell 
this: oi- if the Miid tha:f-iid this, did not invent it (a thing then impofiible to be done ; ) pr Mr. C^e.'ipinrf feign- 
ed that Kc heard the Man make his report from the Maid ; this thing could not come to pals, but by thefe men. 
Kay; \£h\x.-^Dugdale could not do as great a Miracle as any arc in the Popijli Legends, how could he tell that it was 
done on the fam' Night when it was done at London ? orfpeak of it on the Monday night after, when it was not 
known in Z.(!».-/«« till the T;;:«-/'/-'.>' following ? This will Hick, I aflure you ( Sirs) upon all your Party. 

For my own part, this evidence of Mr. Dugdah, gives me the greateftfatisfactionof any thing in the World 
in this matter, and whilll we reft fatisfied in the Murder of that Man, and are morally certain you mull do it, 
Jtnowipg ol what Principles you arc, you cannot blame us, if upon fuchmanitcft reafonswe lay it upon vou. 

And this is occafional Evidence, which I for my part never heard before this day ; nor can I ever be more 
or better fatistied, then I am upon this point, 'viz. The Teftimony that 1 have received this afternoon, concern- 
ing the murder of Sir Edmund-hii-j Godfrey : As to the defences they have made, they are exceptions in point 
of time, but no not effeft Mr. Dugdale ; for they have hardly the coniidence to deny the things te fays to be 
true agaiiift thein. 

They fall foul indeed upon Mr. O ite; : He appears to have been their Agent ; and whilfl: fo , bad 
enough ; but if he had not had a mind to have become a good man, he would not likely have done us that good 
that he hath done, in difcovering the Delign you had engaged him in : let any man judge by your Principles 
and Prailices, what you will not do for the promoting of the fame. 

N I S.